Just like the Nazi torturers, the CIA documented its work…

I just want to add a comment to my last post. I was listening to one of the ubiquitous right-wing talk shows and it was noted that the Senate committee report on the issue of CIA torture included no interviews. Well it is no secret that the report was partisan on the Democratic side, partly because Republicans opted out of the report.

But maybe they did not need interviews. I mean it appears that the CIA included so much detail in its own reports.

Wasn’t that the case with the Nazis in WWII? They recorded everything, even left some awful photos and films for the allies to review at their trials…

The original post follows:

Concerning the just-released Senate report on the U.S. use of torture on terrorism suspects or prisoners:


I have not read the report but I believe it is in no dispute among logical and fair-minded people that our government did engage in torture techniques.



Well I now have read a news story account of what is in the report. Torture was inflicted on some prisoners but there seems little if  any evidence that it did any good. Of course those who support torture will say it did. But what kind of demented person tortures another?


And I for one believe torture is wrong no matter the circumstances. That is not us or who we should want to be.

On the other hand, we are in the fight of our life as a people and a nation against the forces of world-wide terror. So I feel it is not in our interests to dwell on all of this in public too long. But it did need to come out. There, we’ve admitted it.

Hopefully we won’t resort to such barbaric acts in the future. But that does not mean we will turn 180 degrees and make life comfortable for suspected terrorists. We many in effect inflict what amounts to mental torture by the mere fact an individual does not know what is to happen to him or her.

As far as holding people indefinitely, I have a hard time with that. What do we do? Well, I don’t know — probably that has to be judged on a case by case basis.

I wonder if there is any way to change the minds of these misguided souls.

And there are many who seem indifferent to the fact that the U.S. has practiced torture on prisoners. But aren’t we supposed to be different from the forces of evil? If not, then who are we?


Oh, and there seems to be disagreement as to whether the torture ever produced any usable information. Kind of hard to prove whether it did or not I think. But how do you know what a person says under torture is true? And what is the veracity of anything anyone says under duress?
P.s. p.s.

But sometimes it may be necessary for the CIA or other such agencies involved in clandestine national security work to do things that would seem against our norms — I mean I think that is an accepted fact, even though we don’t like to admit it. But, well, it better stay a secret. And I don’t know if what I just wrote is right or wrong really — kind of a conundrum.







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