Can Trump accomplish without insults?

January 31, 2018

Note: I wrote this post as I listened to the Trump speech. In the end I realized it was for the most part a list of predictable platitudes. So I guess it was simply a political speech, rather than a serious policy/issues speech. 75 minutes plus I just heard.

 

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Listening to President Trump’s State of the Union speech. He is of course selling something, himself, his image, the idea that he is making America Great (again).

And I get the idea that the message is if you do not support him you are not patriotic and not willing to join together with other Americans.


And now the day after I want to add this: Trump and the Republicans are always talking about cutting down on government regulation. Trump has issued many executive orders I think doing just that, plus he has appointed cabinet members seemingly bent on dismantling their own departments, such as the Environmental Protection Agency and Education. It’s as if there were no reason ever to have health and safety regulations or some kind of support for public education. Sure bureaucracy can get cumbersome and carried away. But Trump and the Republicans just seem to assume any regulation is a bad one — well unless it supports their causes, such as on abortion, protests using the flag, freedom of speech when the speech does not fit their belief system, and so on.


He has made some what appear at first blush to be some wild claims about major drops in unemployment among all workers and particularly minorities. I don’t have immediate access to the facts. But this is salesmanship and facts are not always useful. Salesmen lie (often), Trump lies all the time. But in salesmanship and even in consumer law I think that is sometimes called sales puffery. My product is best.

But there is no argument that Trump’s brand, as it were, has been buoyed by favorable economic news.

One thing I resent in his speech is the way he tears the past administration down. I’m not a sports fan but I think it is bad sportsmanship. He won the election. He has a right to do a victory lap and he has a right to be happy with himself but he does not have to say things in such a mean and cruel way like he or we have eliminated the terrible and cruel Obamacare (not sure his exact words). It is as if Obama and the Democrats purposely set out to somehow punish people. I don’t know whether Obamacare has worked or worked well or not. I am not directly affected by it. But that is beside the point. The Republicans took the White House and they have a majority in both houses of congress and they can do it their way — except they have not figured out quite what to do in Trump’s first year, except to try to kill Obamacare by eliminating the individual healthcare mandate in their tax law without providing a new form of healthcare.

But that is fine but why insult those who had another idea? Is this not a democracy?

Well while I was writing this he went on to describe his approach to immigration — merit-based I think. I think he means putting a premium on needed skills. Kind of hard to argue with that maybe. I mean we do have to have some kind of control and if that is the case it does seem logical that needed skills would get priority.

Also he called for or promised to close “loopholes” that let criminal gang members in under the guise of unaccompanied minors. Sounds reasonable.

He claimed everyone, it seems, is getting hefty pay raises from the Republican tax bill he recently signed. I doubt neither the president nor congress can make that possible, but I suppose government economic policies have their effect. Economics is complex. And some major corporations wanted to support the idea of the reduction in the corporate tax rate by handing out bonuses. We’ll take the money.

I am wondering to the extent Trump has had great accomplishments, or if we are to give him the benefit of the doubt on that, could he have done this and could he continue without all the acrimony and the dreadful behavior and complete lack of civil decorum?

His address so far is full of red meat nationalism — but sometimes a little red meat is good. I like steak, but you can get too much of it. Not good for your health.

This has not been an analysis really just some off the top of my head thoughts as I listen. If I get time I will write more in the coming days if it seems worthwhile.

Oh, now he says he will not repeat the mistakes of past administrations that have let aggressors such as North Korea gain power.

I wonder myself what happened. Too much wishful thinking perhaps.

We certainly want to be at peace with the world, but there are forces out there all the time who want to destroy us. I for one do not want to stand by and let that happen.

I think Obama’s idea of simply “not doing stupid stuff, an apparent jab at George W. Bush’s war in Iraq (guess Obama did insults too), was not a good mantra for foreign policy.

As far as Trump’s American First attitude, I guess it is how you interpret it. He claims it just means something akin the charity begins at home — and that was my interpretation of what he has said.

This is all going down hill — my blog post I mean. So I will leave it at this for now.

p.s.

I’m listening on radio and just heard chanting but could not make it out but it sounded eerily like Sieg Heil. Nationalism can be scary when it gets out of hand and it so often does.

 

 

 

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For some good perhaps and a lot bad, Trump is flexible…

January 27, 2018

I can and do say a lot of bad things about President Trump. But one thing I have to say is that he is flexible — and I guess that can be good and bad. I mean he is flexible with the truth, the truth which means little to him. But he can also change positions in an instant, or rework his own words to get an opposite meaning.

Apparently from what I just read he soothed some feelings as the elite economic summit in Davos, Switzerland by toning down his nationalist rhetoric or reworking his words to claim that although he is all for American first he does not mean America alone. Maybe similar to the notion that the old German patriotic song Deutschland über alles (not the actual title?) did not refer to Germany ruling the world but rather just pride in the nation. Trump said the world benefits when the U.S. does.

Trump also almost seems to be delivering on the promise to the dreamers (children of illegal aliens brought into the U.S. and raised here but now threatened with deportation — a promise to give them a path to U.S. citizenship). Now that’s something the Democrats have failed so far to do. Yes, it is the Republican majority so far blocking it, but did not the Democrats have a chance years ago when they were in the majority?

Trump’s style, if you will, is I guess some kind of chaos theory. Say anything and everything, leave societal norms behind, and keep everyone off balance.

To the extent it works it is because, well, he is the president of the United States and has the power that goes along with it.

As for the Europeans who may have looked down on him, they need to remember and probably do that the U.S. is still the big boy on the block and all those years we protected Europe from the Soviet threat, sparing them much higher military outlays, which certainly was good for their economies. Make no doubt the United States benefited from the arrangement too.

I am not defending Trump. Can’t stand him and I still think he is a blot on our reputation in the world. But hopefully this will pass.

And there is something to be said for flexibility. Of course it is easy when you have no core values and no conscience.

p.s.

Right now Trump is riding high on good economic news. Apparently the general public is quite capable of putting up with a lot of scandal as long as the economic news seems bright. But sooner or later the law of gravity takes hold. What goes up must come down. Would he have the staying power then or would his supporters realize there is no there there?

 

 


International trade like health care for Trump, more complicated than he thought…

January 25, 2018

How can I fault President Trump for putting new tariffs on imported washing machines and solar panels? I myself have wondered why we don’t take that type of action in order to help our own industry and create or save American jobs.

So my first reaction is not to criticize. But I don’t know how well all this works. I just read that for one thing while tariffs on incoming solar panels could help some panel producers here in the USA, the solar industry in general could be hurt by making solar power less attractive with added costs.

I don’t know about that but I sure like the idea of saving manufacturing, such as washing machines, right here in the good ol’ USA.

We are a land with so many resources, natural resources, and a labor force, and yet we seem intent on putting ourselves out of work.

International trade is complicated though. There are worries that the latest tariff action by Trump, with more threatened, could lead to an international trade war, with other nations following suit. And that is, economists and historians will tell you, what, at least in part, led to the Great Depression that officially began in 1929 and lasted a decade through the 1930s.

Trump made big promises during his campaign to protect American jobs, particularly manufacturing jobs. Up until now there has been little action on that.

As cost-conscious consumers we like to pay the least we can for consumer goods, as a rule, from automobiles to shirts.

I know years and years ago I saw it as an advantage to buy shirts imported from who knows where? Bangladesh, China, El Salvador? And later, who knew? Vietnam.

The first brand new car I bought was made in Japan. I could afford it and not the American-made ones. And besides, the Japanese cars had a reputation for durability while American-made cars were said to be manufactured with the idea of “planned obsolescence” so you would want or have to buy a new one every year or so.

I bought that Japanese model and it ran with few problems for at least a decade and more. At the same time my boss at the time bought an American-made car and had nothing but problems from the get go.

(The car I have now was bought brand new some 16 years ago and it keeps on running — made in Japan. I know Japan in recent times has had economic problems, but that is another subject. The cars keep on coming, though.)

But oh the terrible working conditions and lives those shirt makers live in some of those countries. We here in the U.S. of course had those conditions once, but thanks to the hard-fought battles of the labor movement (history now, too much forgotten) and the progressive movement in politics alternatively adopted by one wing of the Republican Party (Teddy Roosevelt) and Democrats (his distant cousin, FDR), we progressed.

The idea of sending our manufacturing jobs, including car production, overseas and decimating what had been a well-paid work force seems appalling to me. But of course some of those foreign automakers produce them here now. And in this global economy the old ways of doing things have turned everything topsy-turvy. I mean are foreign autos made in the U.S. foreign?

But our economy, as that of most nations, depends upon international trade. And you can’t trade if you build an impenetrable wall of tariffs. That seemed to be the lesson of the Great Depression.

It seems international trade agreements have great value but they have to be fair to all parties and that is the rub.

There is a problem when one or a few nations have economies that far outstrip the others in an agreement. That is the problem the European Union has faced. The northern European nations tend to have more robust economies than the southern ones.

The U.S. towers over Mexico but we are both partners in the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), along with Canada, which of course is far ahead of Mexico as well.

It might be helpful if these trade agreements could raise the standard of living for all workers. Then all could compete on a more level playing field.

And I sometimes wonder if the powers that be understand it should be about what is best for everyday people not just the major investors.

I do not pretend to understand it all. But I am afraid that President Trump understands it no better than I. He is subject to whim and the latest notion someone tosses at him.

And for some reason he has it in his head that we come out on the short end of trade with Mexico (and China too of course). I don’t know the numbers, but I’d ask anyone who ships stuff out of the U.S. what they think.

Just as he admitted about health care it is probably a problem a lot more complicated than he thought.

p.s.

And as I have pointed out before, as a truck driver NAFTA has not hurt me. I haul stuff to the border and away from it. An example: I recall hauling particle board that was shipped into Mexico. On the return load I hauled produce out of Mexico. But I have also hauled a lot of apples and pears bound for Mexico.

 

 

 


Both Democrats and Republicans share equal blame for fiscal stalemate that won’t stop even with resolution…

January 22, 2018

The government shut down still in progress as I write this is a deplorable stunt by both major political parties who are more intent on blaming each other than serving the American people. They should all be voted out of office except perhaps that kind of thinking is what gave us President Trump — super anti-establishment. Some may be happy about that. As for me I prefer continuity and stability and civility.

(Even if all this is resolved by the time you read this, I think what I say is still relevant.)

The system that has evolved is that instead of hammering out a budget, a spending plan, both sides hide behind continuing spending resolutions so they do not have to be fully accountable.

Meanwhile, the president and his spokespeople and most of the Republican legislators blame the Democrats for holding up a budget agreement over their insistence that accommodation be made for immigrant children brought into this nation illegally by their parents. While the children were not born here, they grew up here and now could face deportation. Most would not even know the nations of their birth, even the language or customs any more than one of us who were born in the U.S.

Now supposedly polling shows that a majority of Americans, both Democrats and Republicans included, support accommodating what are called “dreamers” (they dream of becoming citizens and realizing the American dream).

But the Republican propaganda machine is taking advantage of the predicament saying that the Democrats are shutting down the government to help illegal aliens to the detriment of our own citizens. Of course on its face anyone would know that the issue is more complex than that but both political parties use such simplistic and misleading assertions, counting on the belief (sadly often true) that voters often are not deep thinkers and glom onto any quick slogan or phrase or simplistic notion that supports their own current prejudices.

Make no mistake, I realize uncontrolled immigration and so-called chain immigration where as I understand it the trick is to slip members of the family in little by little until everyone is established needs to be dealt with.

Some people think we ought to bring in only skilled workers we need. I agree with that approach to an extent but I also would like to think we are a refuge (to the extent we can be) for the downtrodden of the world. Probably immigrants, regardless of skill level, are more likely to become working citizens than many of our own.

Just saw part of a sad story (with perhaps a happy or promising ending) on PBS about a refugee couple from Africa — both very intelligent people who suffered from the corruption and torture there. Yeah, Trump was correct in a way — there are shit hole countries — but it is not the innocent people or the actual countries but the corrupt sectors of their societies (corruption exists everywhere, here in the good ol’ USA as well of course).

Our congress needs to amend its ways of doing business and resolve problems, not continue to create them.

A government shut down has terrible consequences. Federal workers through no fault of their own could be deprived of wages. They may end up getting back pay — I don’t know — one would not think so. Armed Forces personnel have to forgo paychecks while staying on duty (while I am sure they get it all eventually, they may well need those paychecks now — could you deprive a soldier of his or her pay?).

The public is deprived of services the government provides. I know that a lot of parks are closed  or have limited services. I am supposed to go to a government office to get a new I.D. card to get into the ports (I’m a trucker), but as far as I know the offices would be closed. Contractors would not be paid on time. And the list goes on.

Both major political parties want to make the other look bad hoping to get advantage in the next elections. At this rate it would be better to vote for third-party candidates — but people who know something, not the like the dunderhead we have as president now. Yes, I know, a lot of people are saying but the economy seems to be improving. Well Hitler whipped the German nation into shape, for a time, and Mussolini made the trains in Italy run on time, but at what a disastrous cost — those societies ended up with all civil liberties gone, torture and murder and a terrible war.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Where is the outpouring of public outrage against Trump?

January 14, 2018

In troubled times as these we should look back into fairly recent history and ask what are we coming to? The president of the United States can refer to other nations and people by foul names and he can insinuate that if you are not white, and preferably rich and white, you are not worthy and not be immediately censured for it. Oh, it can all be explained away or ignored as simply inconsequential in the bigger picture. Or maybe it’s about time we “Americans” stood up for ourselves. And get over it, it’s just his style.

Yes there is outrage at President Trump’s “shit hole remarks” referring to nations in Africa and parts of Latin America and the Caribbean, populated primarily by people with darker skin than his own (than my own too), and where there is abject poverty and often lawlessness and corrupt governments (gee sounds like home). Even so, in all it seems a bit muted.

I just watched a documentary on the May Lai massacre in which during the Vietnam War American soldiers wantonly killed 500 civilians in a couple of small villages, including babies and their mothers and old people. The Army tried to cover it up. But a year or so later word got out and there was public outrage. But there was also public outrage when the powers that be tried to use one lowly army lieutenant as a scapegoat (evidence shows he was guilty but it also showed he was not the only one and that the orders came from higher up the chain of command — but he was eventually freed and no one ever faced punishment, except for a few months in the stockade for the lieutenant).

Anti-war people along with much of the general public were outraged that a solider following orders in what had become known as a pointless and unjust war would be made to take the blame. Even people whose proclivity was to support our country right or wrong could not stomach it all anymore.

And what of the men who mowed down the innocents? Even though no one of us would ever want to think that we could do such a savage thing, think about it. You are in a foreign country and you may never see home again. Your fellow soldiers have been picked off by landmines, booby traps, sniper fire — no head-on engagement. You know that at times civilians are complicit in it all. And then you get the orders: you are going into a “free fire” zone — everyone is a target.

(Faulty intelligence supposedly indicated that only Viet Cong soldiers and no innocent civilians would be present — very confusing in that the Viet Cong were guerilla units that dressed in black pajama peasant garb — but they were certainly not babies. Yes, I know, there were reported instances in that war where bombs were attached to toddlers who approached unsuspecting GIs, but that is bedside the point here.)

I know the official government line back home here was that we were helping the people of South Vietnam fight off foreign aggression, a communist takeover — of course it was all very complicated. You had what amounted to an ongoing civil war aided and abetted by the old Soviet Union, primarily, as well as neighboring communist China. But before that they were fighting off their French colonial masters, and then the Japanese, and of course not everyone in Vietnam was on the same side. But our soldiers were dumped into the middle of it all and soon all of the Vietnamese were just “gooks”. Once you put that label on, once you dehumanize them, I guess it’s easier to rationalize brutality against innocents. I guess.

Now supposedly you even as a lowly private are not required to follow illegal orders. But what is an illegal order? You can’t just pick and choose.

I was reminding one of my daughters the other day that although I was in the army during the worst part of Vietnam I served in Germany, or in the “Beetle Bailey army” as I termed it. But I still vividly recall our one class on following orders in basic training conducted in a little garage-like building at North Fort Lewis, Wa. The young lieutenant told us that we were not required to follow an illegal order — the only example I recall he gave was if we were ordered to march off a cliff. But he cautioned us: if you choose not to obey what you believe is an illegal order you are still subject to courts-martial and punishment if the tribunal decides it was a legal order. Or as one participant in the May Lai massacre asserted in the documentary: there is no such thing as an illegal order.

Now, still, at least a couple of others in the documentary claimed that they willfully refused orders to kill civilians (and we are talking women and children, including babies) or somehow dodged them. They said they were not sure whether they themselves might be shot for disobeying an order in the middle of a combat operation. And since then, they said, they have always anguished over the thought was there something they could have done?

And before I get too far away from my original point, it was scary how the army seemed to implicitly threaten the soldiers in the May Lai incident that if they leaked a word of it they too might be up on charges for the atrocities themselves. They were told directly to say nothing to anyone.

But the mentality that sees everything in black and white, we are the good guys, they are the bad guys, and the mentality of people who don’t question their leaders even when the reality of right and wrong is staring them in the face leads to the horrors of May Lai, the atrocities of German soldiers in Word War II (not the only ones that ever happened in any wars, just examples), and some of the things that have happened in our more recent military engagements in the Middle East.

But May Lai was a turning point I think. There was public outrage, and from then on support of the war withered away.

Somehow I don’t see enough outrage over the vile words and actions of Trump.

Personal greed, distrust among races and social classes, political expediency, and apathy have supplanted morals in our culture.

p.s.

Perhaps what I have written is making kind of a stretch or is a false analogy. But what I am trying to say is how can we claim the moral high ground when we have leadership that is so low? Or have we lowered ourselves? Or do enough people care?

And I did not address all of Trump’s vulgarity, his disgusting behavior around women. I myself am neither a prude nor pure, and even President Jimmy Carter, a church pastor himself, allowed as how he “lusted in his heart”, but we are talking of how a president of the United States comports himself in public, how he projects himself to the world, while representing our nation and all of us. I really am not sure we can survive this. If we do, we are going to have a lot to atone for.

And one more thing: whenever I refer to the Vietnam War, in general, I am not criticizing you who served. You were duty bound. I will always have more respect for those who actually served than those who simply talk tough but skipped out (oh, would that include Trump?).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Our potty-mouthed president; some voters made a deal with the devil…

January 12, 2018

Let me say this right up top here: I am for America First!

Having made that clear, I still think that referring to other nations as “shit holes” is below the level of dignity that a U.S. president should have — but of course ours does not have any dignity, and he tarnishes the good name of our beloved nation.

But his apologists and some realists, I suppose, settle for the notion that he is who he is, and he is president, and he is likely to be so at least for another three years and even perhaps four more after that.

Some voters were so repelled by the idea of having the sometimes shrill and seemingly shady Hillary Clinton as president that they voted for the unquestionably racist, sexist, and known potty-mouthed Donald Trump.

(And I should mention that he is a pathological liar. But that does not seem to bother his faithful because, they will tell you: A. all politicians lie, and B., he is their liar.)

So, in electing Trump, the nation has made a deal with the devil.

On the one hand we are getting an America-first agenda. The stock market is climbing. It seems as if the labor market is expanding. Some conglomerates are raising employee wages in a gesture (politically opportune) of thanks for the new Republican tax law that gives corporations (and various others) a major tax cut.

And get this: some of those quintessential Dodge Ram pickups (they are a sign of manhood where I live I know; but ladies love’em too) will go back to being produced in a plant in America in Michigan (although others will continue to be made in Mexico).

Of course Walmart has announced raises for employees, although it also announced the closing of some of its low-performing Sam’s Club stores (but hard to criticize ’em for not wanting to lose money).

I don’t know the extent of this spreading of the largesse. We would not want to exaggerate.

But something I have noticed over the past year — empirical evidence if you will — are help-wanted signs seemingly sprouting up all over the place. And I do get around as a long-haul truck driver.

Okay, that was the good part of the bargain in the deal with the devil (if you give Trump the credit).

On the other hand:

We have created more animosity toward our nation on a crowded planet. We may be strong but we are not stronger than the whole world. That is to say there are more of them than there are of us. A whole lot more.

And by putting down people and other nations we give more ammunition to terrorists who use this as evidence to feed to potential recruits to fight the great Satan (us).

Besides all of that, so many in this nation profess their adherence to Christianity, or let’s just say their belief in God (no matter what religion), and supposedly a major tenet in that belief is a respect for all of God’s children. I don’t see how that squares with a president who uses foul language to disparage people of color or races other than his own.

His actions could result in an increase in racial strife right here at home too. We do not want that.

Trump was reported to have uttered his “shit hole” remark at a meeting in the White House that was not public and may have not been recorded (I don’t know), but that has been corroborated by both Republicans and Democrats in attendance, as I understand it.

His spokesmen have not denied it but in some strange twist of logic have simply stated that the president is for America first, by which one can only conclude that as long as one is for America using uncivil and foul language to describe others is permissible.

So I guess if we advise our children to learn to act like adults they should in turn brush up on their foul language, and boys (#Me too notwithstanding) should learn how to grab females in their private parts and brag about it (as our fearless leader).

I fear our civilization is falling into the gutter.

But if Trump is due some credit for good things (and I do not know that he really is), could we have these good things without his repulsive behavior?

Or do I not get it? It just seems like a deal with the devil to me.

The most evil man of the 20th Century, Adolf Hitler, whipped the beleaguered German nation into shape, and his partner in crime Benito Mussolini made the trains in Italy run on time, and there was an awful price to pay for it all.

p.s.

Oh, and meanwhile, Republican elders and people with influence continue to be conflicted as to Trump. On the one hand they wince at his bullish and uncivil ways but on the other hand they are fearful to protest too hard lest they lose their grip on their own power, and they may feel that they can use him in some way (although it is they who may be being used I think).

Yes some people have protested, only to take it back when they get cold feet.

The following quotation or words closely resembling it has been attributed to several icons of history but, whatever, I think it apples here:

All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

(Edmund Burke)

 

 

 


My fellow truckers: you have 15 years tops…

January 10, 2018

Note: The immediate issues of today, the ones swirling around the phenomenon of the Trump presidency, and of immigration, of employment, what is best for the economy and so on pale in comparison to what we are facing with automation promising to put, I think, the majority of workers out of their jobs. My comments below address primarily truck driving but really tell the story of what most everyone who does not hold some private fortune faces in the not at all distant future.


 

I’m just working till I die I guess. I’m 68. I work as a long-haul truck driver and basically full time, except I do take a week or two off every few weeks now and I take a month or more off straight each year (have been for the past four years). There are reasons I continue to work — money being at the top.

But don’t pity me. I feel sorry for those far younger than I and those just starting out in the trade. If what I read or just read is true, there is no future in this business, at least not one that lasts beyond the next 15 years. By then our work will virtually all be automated with no need for that expensive overhead called experienced drivers. While there may be an interim period where not-so-experienced people will be used as monitors on self-driving trucks (often called “autonomous”), they will be discarded because they will be seen as just unnecessary overhead.

And I am not a communist or someone running down our economic system — I am a patriot. I love my country. I love our freedom. I appreciate our free-market capitalism, such as it is and so on.

But let’s be honest: as a worker you are just overhead. And the minute it is determined you are expendable — sorry, it’s been nice but we can’t use you anymore. You are on your own. And really shame on you for not being an entrepreneur with your own business in which you yourself could be letting someone else go — nothing personal, that’s just life, reality.

Now the article I just read (a link at the bottom) is just one person’s view but it sounds accurate to me with what else I have been reading. And all of it can be applied to just about all work now. There is very little left that cannot be automated, from the most heretofore hands-on technical to those supposedly cerebral jobs once thought safe from automation. Can machines and computers always do a better job and make the best decisions? I am doubtful of all that. And at some point we should as a society ask ourselves if we are going beyond making our lives easier and more comfortable and safer and into some realm devoid of all humanity. Do I,  do you, really want to live in a non-human world where we all sit around at the mercy of computers — run by who? other computers? I think I just wrote a definition of dystopian.

(The question of course is how do we as a society determine how finite resources are shared with no tokens called dollars (or currency) — with no work so many of us will not be earning them. A sure danger of societal upheaval between the haves and have-nots.)

As far as trucking goes for the brave new world, devoid of drivers, described, I think a major upgrade in infrastructure, from roads to bridges to storage and docking facilities, will be needed and the question will be: who will pay for it all? Even though the present infrastructure that supports our contemporary system is falling apart it seems no one wants to fund its improvement on a large scale. But once that obstacle is overcome, it will be hard to stop the advance of automation. Even though our brand of capitalism provides great opportunities for upward mobility in society, in the end capitalism demands dollars over people.

If any truckers read this blog and have not read about the automation to come, click on to this link  (and then click continue to article) — you may want to think about your future unless you are like me and have just resigned to work until you die — or when automation lets you go, whichever comes first.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/aalsin/2017/11/28/beyond-teslas-semi-truck-the-future-of-trucking-and-transportation/2/#8146bf616a35